Derek Jeter: The Ridiculous, Stupid, Clueless Speculation Continues
Appropriate that all those adjectives are in the title of this article.
Derek Jeter’s 10-year, $189 million contract with the New York Yankees came to an end with the final out of the 2010 World Series. With that, thousands of clueless neanderthals began speculating on his possible future.
I don't know, they seem to be more concerned with insurance company advertisements, but I don't know that many neanderthals.
Free agency now beckons the 36-year-old, whose future suddenly appears to be murky after coming off the worst offensive year of his illustrious career.
I suppose I should clarify the aforementioned statement. His future is only murky to those that are totally clueless in the way of the New York Yankees and Derek Jeter.
Consider this column an open letter to the buffoons, be they professional writers or Red Sox fans, that actually wasted their time and mine by even speculating on Jeter’s future as anything but a Yankee or on his ability to still play the game after an off-year.
How'd they waste your time? No one's making you speculate on anything. Also, that buffoon comment hurts. I hate being called a buffoon almost as much as I hate being called a nincompoop.
Let the education begin…
At the ripe old age of 36 and coming off the worst offensive year of his illustrious career, Jeter is apparently done, according to the self-proclaimed Einsteins of the Web.
This, of course, is what Jeter’s detractors (mainly comprised of Red Sox fans, some Mets fans and the entire staff of ESPN—you know, "The Red Sox Network") want us to believe.
As an unbiased Cubs fan, I feel like ESPN shoves at least as much Yankees coverage down my throat as Red Sox, if not more so.
It’s interesting that when posing such a claim they forget to include the following about Jeter’s 2010 season:
A) Every player in every sport experiences a down year. Jeter apparently just experienced his.
So every time us buffoons talk about Jeter we're supposed to say "he had a down year, just like every other player in sports." Good to know.
B) Unlike players like David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez, Sammy Sosa and others, Jeter’s offensive decline did not come in the wake of his being named as a steroid abuser. Yes, I omitted A-Rod because unlike the others, so far, his power outage seems to be due to injury.
Yep, A-Rod is just a coincidence. The rest are dirty cheaters.
C) While it is true that some of Jeter’s offensive numbers were not “Jeter-esque,” such as the .270 BA and leading the league in outs made, placing fifth in the league in grounding into double plays, they conveniently forget what he actually did do from a leadoff spot minus the bat of A-Rod and the slow bat of Mark Teixeira behind him for much of the season…
His 663 at-bats were the most he has had since 2002 and second-most in the league in 201o.That'll happen when you lead off.
He led the league in plate appearances.
You say Jeter's fallen off! He led the league in plate appearances! Let's see Juan Pierre do that! Wait, Juan Pierre did that?
His 30 doubles were three more than the previous season, when he finished third in MVP voting, and were his most since 2007.
I'm sure he was 3rd in MVP voting entirely based on those 30 doubles, too. (I wanted to find where those monster 27 doubles put Jeter on the leaderboard, but the only list I could find on Yahoo Sports only lists the top 50, which ended at 35. Oh well.)
He drove in 67 runs from the leadoff spot, one more RBI than last season, when (ahem) he finished third in MVP voting.
Yeah, that didn't put him the top 50, either. Also, the Yankees lineup is stacked and in the American League, so it's really not that much of a handicap RBI wise for him to hit leadoff.
He was 10th in the league in times on base.
Hey that's almost a relevant stat! It's just like OBP...except it included times you reached due to error, or by fielder's choice. And, of course, it's not a percentage, so Jeter is helped out greatly by that plate appearance stat you cited earlier.
He led the league in fielding percentage at short.
Oh, I'll get to his defense later.
Any other team, in contention or not, with a shortstop leading the league in fielding, scoring over 100 runs and driving in nearly 70 from the leadoff spot would be considered successful.
However, because the numbers were posted by Jeter, the world—and seemingly his career—is coming to an end.
Excuse me if I don’t rush to get my affairs in order.
What the hell are you talking about?
Now being realistic and objective,
because those are two things you've been the epitome of thus far
something Jeter detractors never experience, Jeter could very well be on a decline. His age suggests his best years are behind him. He has played a lot of games over his career, and after 15 years the opposition is going to find out how to pitch Jeter and defend against his hitting spray.
1. "hitting spray" sounds gross.
2. Admittedly I didn't watch a whole lot of Yankee games this year, so I missed the part where opposing defenses spread the 8 position players (7 if someone was on base) in the shallow outfield. Kudos to Billy Beane for coming up with that.
However, the decline of most athletes who have enjoyed a relatively injury-free career like Jeter is a natural and gradual one that takes a period of years. Jeter does not show that pattern just yet. If Jeter experiences a similar season in 2011, then the detractors might have something. Until then, it’s merely wishful thinking on the part of the currently clueless, jealous and jaded.
The only problem is Jeter doesn't need a new contract after 2011, he needs a new contract now. Otherwise I'm sure we wouldn't be debating this.
Jeter needs to move to the outfield. His defense is too poor and he is too old to continue to play that position.
I really love this argument. Nothing makes a Jeter detractor sound more ignorant than this old chestnut.
Speaking of "old chestnuts": your writing.
Let’s just be quick about this one, shall we?
Jeter led the league at short in fielding percentage.Which is very easy to do when you're too damn slow to ever get to a ball not hit directly at you. Let's try to find a better a stat, shall we?
Fielding Runs Above Average -10
Defensive Runs Saved Above Average -13
Range Factor per 9 inn. 3.78
For reference Alexei Ramirez was +9, +16, and 4.89. Want someone a little more average? Cesar Izturis was +6, +3, and 4.24 for the Orioles.
Jeter’s FA combined with his offensive contributions, even in a "off-year,” made him more valuable than most at his position.
Jeter's WARP: 3.1
Ramirez: 6.2
Troy Tulowitzki: 6.7
Hanley Ramirez: 4.4
Jason Bartlett: 3.2
I know he said "most", but still.
Jeter’s strong and accurate arm shows no sign of the advanced “age” that he is constantly tagged with.
Age ain't nuthin but a number, baby!
Jeter is a student of the game and leader on the field. He knows how and where to position himself per batter and communicates this knowledge to those in the field with him. It’s called intangibles—this does not show up in the box score or on a stat line, but it is infinitely more valuable.
Infinitely more valuable! See, Pujols, instead of hitting all those stupid home runs all over the place, you should have just been positioning the other fielders better. Than the Cardinals might have made the playoffs. After all, that's infinitely more valuable.
Jeter has a head for the game—when is the last time you saw Jeter make a “bonehead” play?
When he settled down with Minka Kelly instead of staying a swinging bachelor. Amirite, fellas? (*Wife slams door, walks out*)
—he is a thinking man’s player that typically makes the "right" out.
To be fair, the range of Alex Rodriguez and Robinson Cano on either side, along with the glove of Teixeira, make things easier on Jeter, but that is what an infield is supposed to do.
The suggestion that Jeter needs to move to the outfield is a laughable one that clueless people who know nothing about baseball continue to make.
Really? I haven't heard people saying that. Probably because he'd be just as much of a liability.
If Jeter is to be moved, and that is questionable, it would make more sense to move Alex Rodriguez to DH, which would possibly help reduce what appear to be chronic leg and hip issues and move Jeter to third, where his strong arm would feel at home and his range issue won’t be so much of a factor.
The problem with moving Jeter anywhere is the Yankees do not have his replacement lined up (if you believe the Nunez stuff, I am laughing at you right now),
"Ha Ha, I say, you old chestnut of a buffoon. Let me go get my affairs in order."
so get used to seeing him at short for the next year or two.
Posada, Chamberlain, Burnett, one more starter and the pen are all more pressing problems than anything real or perceived about Jeter.
First sentence I've agreed with so far.
Still concerned with Jeter at short?
Ask yourself one question: How many games, regular season or playoff, has Jeter’s glove, arm or range cost the Yankees during his career?
Probably a few, considering his WARP would probably higher if it wasn't for defense.
What was that?
I said probably a few, turn your hearing aid up, old guy.
That’s what I thought. You can collectively shut up now.
Jeter is not worth $20 million per year and is not worth what he expects or will ask for.
I love this one. I really do. I’m laughing at you.
LOLzers!
1) It’s not your money, so why worry? Save me the “the more money he makes the higher the ticket prices…” etc. Is Jeter’s salary responsible for the rising cost of gas, milk, etc.? It’s called inflation. Look it up.
2) Baseball is a game that we played in Little League. It’s a game that our kids play at the park. Jeter is a professional Major League Baseball player and Major League Baseball is not a game, it’s a business. The Yankees are the most valued franchise by far in MLB. In the first year of their new stadium, the Yankees netted $441 million. That’s after all the bills were paid, including the luxury tax, player and staff salaries, etc. Pretty successful enterprise, I must say—and Derek Jeter plays a large role in that profit.
Merchandise with Jeter’s name on it sells more than any other Yankee and quite possibly more than most players in the game. His continued presence in the lineup sells tickets. His pursuit of career and MLB milestones opens all kinds of opportunities for revenue. Jeter is a money-making machine, and for the Yankees the near-$20 million annual investment has been well worth it.
Sure, what the hell, give him $40 million. Just don't expect him to give you more than average numbers for a shortstop back.
3) Jeter is a private person and has never come out and revealed what he wants, expects or is willing to play for. What he has done is accepted what was offered. No one, not professional writers or armchair hacks, knows what Jeter wants or is willing to play for. As for what he deserves, until you are running the Yankees and paying their bills, opinions on his worth and value mean nothing more than what can be scraped off the bottom of his cleats.
In terms of advertising, merchandising, stature, reputation and image to the league, franchise and the game, Jeter, more so than many in baseball, is worth every penny he has earned.
No one's saying he's not, but the question is more is he worth continuing to pay him like the best shortstop in the league when he's 37-40?
The Yankees need to think younger, and in order to land Cliff Lee the Yankees might need to dump Jeter and Mo.
I actually read that in a column right here on Bleacher Report. Are you done laughing yet? Yes, it took me a while to stop too.
Yeah, that's pretty dumb, unless Cliff Lee hates old people or something. Pretty sure the Yankees can afford to overpay all 3 of them.
I won’t spend too much time on this because it’s so...Red Sox "stupid-esque."
Buffoonery, I say!
Jeter is a career Yankee. He is this generation's Joe DiMaggio. He is 73 hits shy of 3,000 for his career, a feat few players have reached and one that no other Yankee in history has reached. It’s another revenue opportunity for the Yankees, and Jeter is responsible for it.
Anyone actually speculating that Jeter will reach that milestone in another uniform is in need of immediate therapy and possible medication.
Debate 101: It strengths your argument when you insult everyone who disagrees with you.
While no one knows for certain that he'll never be in another uniform, it’s very hard for a logical, forward-thinking, upright-standing, non-low-browed human to picture Jeter in another uniform. Unless Minka Kelly likes to play dress-up in the bedroom.
Mariano Rivera is still dominant in his role—regardless of age.
The idea that the Yankees would even consider dropping these two iconic franchise players for any reason, let alone acquiring someone like Cliff Lee is amateurish speculation at best. It’s simply laughable.
Is Terry Bradshaw writing this article?
Lee will be a free agent, and, if he wants to play for the Yankees as much as the Yankees want him, no other team will be able to outbid the Bombers for his services. The Yankees want to stay within a budget, but make no mistake about it—they have the revenue to get the job done without dropping their cornerstones to do it.
2nd sentence I've agreed with you.
Bottom line, people…
Derek Jeter is a Yankee for life. Anyone thinking otherwise is clueless, a disgruntled Mets fan or a wishful-thinking and bitter Red Sox fan. It’s laughable to think anything else.
You haven't laughed yourself out yet?
If I had to guess (and why not, everyone else is doing so)…
Jeter is not a “hang-around” type of player—if he is not performing to a level that he feels he should play, he will retire mid-contract.
I see Jeter getting $16-18 million per year for three to four years (taking him to age 40). Depending on how he performs will determine one-year contracts after that. He might even ask for percentages of profit or may accept less with a more incentive-laden contract.
As for next year, when Jeter once again hits over .300, the roaches—I mean his detractors—will return back under the woodwork.
"Hey, man, can I borrow your debate 101 notes? I was sick that day."
Derek Jeter is a first-ballot Hall of Famer that has played the game the way it should be played. Sabermetricians that churn out stats as to his fielding ability, or lack thereof, and anyone else that detracts from Jeter are merely jealous that he does not play for their team of choice.
The man's record speaks for itself.
On a serious note, I get not wanting to see your franchise superstar who's won you multiple championships play the twilight of his career somewhere else (see Jordan, Michael.) That doesn't mean it's "laughable" that it will happen, though. Especially since the Yankees are a fairly smart organization that might not want to pay an at-best average shortstop $16-18 mil until he's 40.
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